Help!!!,....

get the 18-135, it'll give you more range in the same(ish) sized package. Technically, they're about as good as each other, those two lenses. Suggest you check kenrockwell.com and dpreview.com for more info.

Ideally, of course, you want the 18-200VR, but they're as rare as hens teeth. I've been waiting nearly a month for one, and still no luck.

also, I really want a D80, but really can't buy one, having only got my D50 18 months ago.

*camera envy* :)

yeah I'd agree with Mat there.

You can also get it with the

Tamron 18-200mm XR DI,....

So excited,... and have to wait 30 more days :(

I agree with Mandy here - suggest you don't touch the Tamron with a barge pole. Nikon bodies work best with Nikkor lenses - they were designed for each other, rather than the other manufactures, who make the same lens for lots of different cameras. That extra few hundred euros for the Nikkor is worth it, I promise.

I agree,..

This would be the lens,...

18-135mm f/3.5-5.6G ED-IF AF-S DX Zoom-Nikkor that comes with it.

Well,.. the other one is,...

Nikkor AF-S DX Zoom-Nikkor 18-70 / 3.5-4.5 G IF-ED

If I would get the body only that would be 200 euro cheaper. But you can't get anything decent as a lens for 200 euro :)

i'm not a pro on camera lenzes. if you can't dicide buy both!;-)

Yes but,,.... I'll need to borrow your bankcard then. :)

I have a D50 with the 18-135 lens (which I bought separately). It's pretty good (effectively 27-200 mm with the digital sensor). It's fast to focus, which I understand the Tamron and Sigma lenses are not. It's a little bit soft at the long end, but nothing that would bother you too much. For mat's info, Campkins in Cambridge have the 18-200 VR in stock.