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Impressive street sculpture symbolizing Sheffield's industrial heritage. Steel imported from China.

crickson says:

I can't quite tell what it is...

4th Dec 2006, 11:17

OJ says:

It's a snaking wall of polished steel with a mirrored surface, still partially hidden under some sort of plastic wrapping whilst the square around it is completed.

I'll post a "context" picture.

4th Dec 2006, 12:13

Viv says:

from China - sad reflections!

4th Dec 2006, 12:23

if it's from china the chances are it's actually fake steel!

4th Dec 2006, 13:00

Viv says:

???

4th Dec 2006, 13:09

chris says:

Yup, sad that it's from china - says probably more than they want about the state of Sheffield's steel industry.

4th Dec 2006, 13:09

OJ says:

From memory, I don't think it was that Sheffield couldn't make it, it was that China could make it cheaper.

4th Dec 2006, 13:18

Geodyne says:

Ouch.

Really. How appropriate. Talk about salt in the wound.

4th Dec 2006, 13:19

OJ says:

Exactly Geodyne.

4th Dec 2006, 13:51

Joe says:

Fake steel!?...

it's a sad thing indeed, especially when you consider how much something like that must cost to ship from china, and yet it's still cheap enough to make a mockery of the local steel industry....oh the irony.

4th Dec 2006, 13:57

OJ says:

A mockery? You might well say that Joe.

Mock steel? I wouldn't go that far...

4th Dec 2006, 14:02

Joe says:

maybe thats the wrong word. It must smart for anyone who works in the steel industry in Sheffield though.

4th Dec 2006, 14:06

crickson says:

I know I'm home-counties middle-class, but why would anyone in Britain want to make steel?

4th Dec 2006, 17:20

OJ says:

I think the question actually is, why would they want to have jobs.

I've been to a few forgemasters actually, though not a rolling mill and these days it's a very high tech process.

4th Dec 2006, 17:22

crickson says:

Would they want to have jobs in another sector? Banking is quite nice, property development's all the rage...Why not leave heavy industry to people in countries that can't do much else yet?

Sorry, I just find it strange.

4th Dec 2006, 17:25

OJ says:

I know what you're getting at Crickson. But I'm not sure whether you also realise that the extension of that argument is "leave the dangerous jobs to less regulated countries where heavy industry still gets away with poisoning whole cities with toxic emissions/killing workers (delete as appropriate)"

Job creation schemes in other sectors have been going on for a long time in places like Sheffield, but, taking a look around, it hasn't replaced the volume of jobs lost yet. Also working in call centres is a lot less well-paid than working in industy.

Property developers are actually the spawn of the devil and, even if you agree with hyper inflation of local housing markets which leave record numbers of workers queueing for dwindling stocks of social housing.... they're of limited use where there aren't enough rich people to buy fancy houses.

ps. Factual edit. I checked. The steel was imported, the manufacture took place in Bristol.

4th Dec 2006, 17:32

crickson says:

Good points well made, but I'd still rather heavy industry was exported, if only for the protection of British workers.

They don't have to be property developers! They could be anything! An open mind and a willingness to study can give great results for everyone. It's not easy, but heavy industry is never ever ever coming back to the UK. There must be better options for these often highly trained and capable people.

4th Dec 2006, 17:43

OJ says:

My point was that British workers are much better protected than Chinese workers are and that regulation here means that manufacturing methods are less polluting.

I'm certainly not saying that I'd love to work in heavy industry - though I do have some experience of working in manufacturing - I am concerned about how we'll fare in the new global economy when we don't have any goods to sell. Lets hope the intellectual property from all of our creative industries is worth a hell of a lot. And that China starts respecting IP of course....

4th Dec 2006, 17:48

crickson says:

I'm all for optimism, me. The future will be great because we can sell stuff we make with our minds rather than our arms. : )

4th Dec 2006, 17:53

anon says:

The material is definitely NOT from China, its origins are definitely in Sheffield.

Nothing else to say on the matter

24th Jan 2007, 17:24