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"I had rather be a canker in his hedge than a rose in his grace, and it better fits my blood to be disdained of all than to fashion a carriage to rob love from any: In this, though I cannot be said to be a flattering honest man, it must not be denied that I am a plain-dealing villain. I am trusted with a muzzle and enfranchised with a clog; therefore I have decreed not to sing in my cage. If I had my mouth, I would bite; if I had my liberty, I would do my liking: in the meantime let me be that I am and seek not to alter me."
- William Shakespeare, _Much Ado About Nothing_

"Make no friends with an angry man; and with a furious man thou shalt not go: Lest thou learn his ways, and get a snare to thy soul."
Proverbs 22:24-25 (KJV)

"The most dangerous man, to any government, is the man who is able to think things out for himself, without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane and intolerable, and so, if he is romantic, he tries to change it. And even if he is not romantic personally he is very apt to spread discontent among those who are."
- HL Mencken

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-Dr. Hunter S Thompson

"You are a sick, twisted, sadistic, monsterous fuck. But you know, these are your finer qualities."

"I was told when I grew up I could be anything I wanted: a fireman, a policeman, a doctor-- even President, it seemed. And for the first time in the history of mankind, something new, called an astronaut. But like so many kids brought up on a steady diet of Westerns, I always wanted to be the avenging cowboy hero-- that lone voice in the wilderness, fighting corruption and evil wherever I found it, and standing for freedom, truth and justice. And in my heart of hearts I still track the remnants of that dream wherever I go, in my endless ride into the setting sun."
-Bill Hicks, _Revelations_

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No matter where you are, nothing screams "As a human being I'm a lump of shit" like taking your infant into a pub.
27th Sep 2006, 19:07   | tags:,,


Geodyne says:

I fully agree.

And yet it's seen as perfectly acceptable here - even in smoking pubs.

27th Sep 2006, 22:50

Helen says:

First place my parents took me. Before home even.

Over 26 years ago, but still, in the UK it's not much thought about. Although we do now frown upon parents that smoke around their kids.

27th Sep 2006, 22:56

Dhamaka says:

I think it's a cultural thing. If your social life and the people close to you meet there and if the atmosphere isn't full of smoke and you give the child the care and attention it needs, I don't see the harm in it

28th Sep 2006, 07:58

Caine says:

I agree as well. D., pubs/bars/lounges were one of the last bastions in the U.S. where a person *might* be able to smoke and find adult only company. Even though the smoking thing is now mostly out, it's rare to find any that stick to the "no one under 21" rule anymore. Myself, I can live without screaming children in a bar.

30th Sep 2006, 08:00

bronxelf says:

Although one cannot smoke in a bar in NYC (which is where this was taken), I can personally attest that *that* particular bar was *damned loud*.

And it's definitely cultural. It's a BAR. You leave your kids at home.

30th Sep 2006, 09:33

Caine says:

Yeah, ND bars (some of them) got around the no smoking laws as they don't serve food. The Muddy Creek here in Almont had to abide by the smoking ban for a few weeks after Marilyn bought it, but she got around it even though they do serve food, because the food is less than 40% of the income. Even so, the Muddy Creek *does* allow sprogs - long standing tradition. They aren't there often though, thankfully.

30th Sep 2006, 10:41

kel says:

A lot of English pubs have areas where kids aren't allowed - at least the local pubs that my parents used to take me to did.

30th Sep 2006, 10:42

Helen says:

I think the rule in the UK now is that kids are allowed in pubs, but they have to be in an area from which the bar cannot be seen.

1st Oct 2006, 20:54

taniwha says:

It never occured to me that kids aren't allowed in pubs. But there are pubs and there are pubs - some welcome children and I take that invitation and others don't and I steer clear. The flipside is that we keep children peripheral to adult life and they don''t learn responsible action when it's appropriate to act in that fashion.

1st Oct 2006, 20:58

bronxelf says:

Oddly enough, this cultural difference between the US and UK can be illustrated fully

Having been in both UK and US bars, I can tell you that there's a significant difference, culturally.

There's a difference here between a restaurant that *has* a bar (a liquor license) and a bar, that happens to serve food.

This photo was taken in the latter kind, and the example I linked to takes place in one of those, as well.

2nd Oct 2006, 08:48