Urban Alchemy

by bronxelf

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These are random moments in the life of an indecent designer and the city she loves.

To read my grudging babblings about design, click the button.

And can we really measure
If we think we're any better
than that skyline that goes on and on
forever, on and on...."

- Less Than Jake: Is This Thing On?

Everybody in this world wants the same damned thing-
just not at the same time.

-Chris Orbach: Jane

I could be condemned to hell for every sin but littering."

- Soul Coughing: Idiot Kings

I am a female, carbon based lifeform.
I am a New York City Native.
I am a Design Professional.
I take photographs.
I also sculpt, paint, create mosaics, and play with weapons.

And sometimes, I even dance about Architecture.

What I see, is what you get.

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It's arguable that this is the most controversial building in all of NYC.

27th Oct 2005, 09:02   | tags:,

kostika says:

Why? Cause its ugly?

27th Oct 2005, 09:31

bronxelf says:

Partially. The problem with the building is that it may be ugly, but it was designed by a very famous architect, Edward Durrell Stone. There's very little of Stone's work in NYC, and for that reason alone, a case can be made for its preservation. The Lollipop Building has been the source of *raging* controversy for at least 10 years, and the latest plan is one that makes me, frankly, ill, as it involves replacing the white marble exterior with terra cotta tiles of some kind. TBH there is no reason for terra cotta to ever be used in NYC, ever, anywhere. *gag*.

Wikipedia Entry, about the Lollipop Building

27th Oct 2005, 09:37

bmal says:

its a bit ugly but there are ugly buildings evry where in the worl so changing it, is wrong. if the architect is that famouse and this is his only work in NYC it should be left alone.

27th Oct 2005, 09:44

bronxelf says:

I tend to agree. And it's *gotta* be better than terra cotta. *gack*

27th Oct 2005, 09:45

kostika says:

The curved walls is kinda cool. But overall the building is very ugly. Still it should stay if it a rarity of the man's work.

27th Oct 2005, 09:49

kel says:

hmm, it's sorta nice in a big concrete gothic way. makes me think of batman.

27th Oct 2005, 09:49

bmal says:

very batmanie. but it does look a bit like a prison or something, but cladding a whole building in terra cotta would just be gawd awfull

27th Oct 2005, 09:51

bronxelf says:

The real problem is that you're not seeing it in contxct. The sad truth is that though I think they should leave it alone and just *clean* it... It's in a bad spot.

*looks for a photo that will explain this*


Okay. Okay, follow the curve from the big buiding to your left. When the Warner center ends, theres a small space and then near the ground you can see the upper right corner of the Lollipop.

27th Oct 2005, 09:55

spoon_lamp says:

Naah. The Batman architecture is all geared rowards gothic-oppressive - this seems to be too bland - I don't even remember seeing it when I was there and I'm sure I walked right past it...

27th Oct 2005, 09:55

bronxelf says:

You probably didn't see it-- it's had scaffolding around the base for *YEARS* now.

27th Oct 2005, 09:57

kostika says:

So it sticks out like a sore thumb. Feh..I think that's the joy of architecture in a city like NY. Its all mixed up and that makes it interesting.

27th Oct 2005, 09:58

bronxelf says:

Not just that, though that's true. It's that it's BURIED. The Warner Center is so enormous that it just looks *weird* next to the Lollipop. You don't get this problem on the other side, because you have a major entrance to Central Park on that side, and a giant bronze globe in front of the GE Building.

27th Oct 2005, 09:59

spoon_lamp says:

...hmmm. I now see why I missed it...

27th Oct 2005, 10:31

ladislav says:

Trinity College, Oxford has a C15 or C16 chapel, widely agreed to be extremely beautiful, which is listed as less worth preserving than the extremely ugly 1960s accommodation block, which is about the only remaining example of its style. Similar deal to the Lollipop, by the sound of it...

27th Oct 2005, 13:22

bronxelf says:

This one building has caused more screaming arguments...

27th Oct 2005, 13:37

mat says:

I like it. S'nice.

27th Oct 2005, 13:41

bronxelf says:

It's a very odd, windowless (for the most part) space, which is a bit of a shame, as it's got a *great* view out from that front facade.

27th Oct 2005, 21:24

Joe says:

I actually quite liked it, it's very stark and functional, but in BAD need of some TLC

27th Oct 2005, 21:31

Jay(Jay-at-knightly-dot-com) says:

I hate to ask a dumb question, but where is Warner Center. Next week I'd like to grab a look at the building in context.

28th Oct 2005, 12:16

bronxelf says:

You can't miss it. See the ENORMOUS thing in that photo right above, with the two towers?

That's it.

Columbus Circle. 59th Street, right at the southwest corner of Central Park.

28th Oct 2005, 12:19